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Netflix employees are staging a walkout as a fired organizer speaks out

The Netflix headquarters in Los Angeles, where a rally in support of the employees walking out is set to happen today.
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The Netflix headquarters in Los Angeles, where a rally in support of the employees walking out is set to happen today.

Updated October 20, 2021 at 11:03 AM ET

The weekslong fight inside Netflix comes to a head Wednesday, when employees at the company are expected to walk out, demanding that the company better support its trans and nonbinary employees.

Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos didn't respond to the walkout directly in a recently published Wall Street Journal interview but said, "I'm firmly committed to continue to support artistic freedom for the creators who work with Netflix and increase representation behind the screen and on camera."

But ahead of Wednesday's walkout, a Netflix spokesperson issued a statement that says: "We value our trans colleagues and allies, and understand the deep hurt that's been caused. We respect the decision of any employee who chooses to walk out, and recognize we have much more work to do both within Netflix and in our content."

The incident that incited the employee action may have been the company's handling of Dave Chappelle's new special, The Closer, which contains some jokes at the expense of transgender people. But B. Pagels-Minor says the dispute runs deeper.

Pagels-Minor is the employee Netflix recently fired, alleging that they leaked "confidential, commercially sensitive information" outside the company. The company says that this data made its way into a Bloomberg article revealing data about various metrics and expenditures — details the notoriously tight-lipped company usually keeps under wraps.

"I collected the data, but I did not leak the data," says Pagels-Minor, who spoke to NPR. They said they shared the information internally among co-workers, but not to anyone outside the company, and added that when they were terminated, they weren't offered an opportunity to prove their case.

"It was just like, 'Hey, you're the person. You're gone,' " Pagels-Minor says.

In a statement, a Netflix spokesperson said that a discrepancy in Pagels-Minor's account had gone unexplained and that Pagels-Minor had wiped their electronic devices, "making any further investigation impossible."

Pagels-Minor — who started at Netflix as a senior data product manager for membership and finance engineering, before moving on to work at the company's game launch department — says there wasn't any investigation to begin with.

Pagels-Minor co-led the employee resource group for transgender and nonbinary employees, known as Trans*, and was part of one for Black employees, known as Black@. They said the walkout began as a proposal for a day when trans and nonbinary employees would take paid time off as a result of the exhaustion incurred from the Chappelle news cycle, with any other employees invited to join in support. But then Pagels-Minor saw how executives weren't engaging with questions about the controversy and started organizing a full-blown walkout, along with drafting a list of employee demands.

A rally in support of the walkout is also planned for Wednesday.

The list of demands, first reported by The Verge, includes hiring trans and nonbinary people to executive positions, creating a fund to support trans and nonbinary talent and adding disclaimers "that specifically flag transphobic language, misogyny, homophobia, hate speech, etc. as required." It doesn't ask for anything to be removed from the platform; nor does it mention Chappelle. Instead, it asks for the promotion of trans-affirming content alongside any content deemed anti-trans.

Such demands are part of a growing trend of white-collar workers in tech speaking up about the direction of their companies, says Alan Hyde, a professor of labor and employment law at Rutgers Law School and author of Working in Silicon Valley: Economic and Legal Analysis of a High-Velocity Labor Market.

"They want to have a say in the kinds of businesses their company does, the kind of workplace culture they have, who the clients are. So these have been important demands in motivating worker unrest over the years," Hyde says, pointing to Facebook, Apple and Google as recent examples.

The usual course of these actions, he explains, is that employees make a lot of noise, the company might change one or two details and then things simmer back down to normal. But in the context of this year, when there has been a tremendous surge of labor activityat firms such as John Deere, Kellogg and Kaiser Permanente, Hyde admits, "I'm not sure we've seen this movie before."

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Andrew Limbong
Andrew Limbong is a reporter for NPR's Arts Desk, where he does pieces on anything remotely related to arts or culture, from streamers looking for mental health on Twitch to Britney Spears' fight over her conservatorship. He's also covered the near collapse of the live music industry during the coronavirus pandemic. He's the host of NPR's Book of the Day podcast and a frequent host on Life Kit.