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Stateside Podcast: The Plot thickens

Interior of the state Capitol's rotunda.
Lester Graham
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Michigan Radio

Just before the 2020 presidential election, some big news hit Michigan: a plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer from a paramilitary group. A report from the news website The Intercept looked into the FBI records of the case and tells an even more complicated story. The actions of a key informant in the case raises some big questions and points to flaws in the FBI’s investigation.

GUESTS ON THIS EPISODE:

  • Trevor Aaronson, contributing writer for The Intercept
  • Eric L. VanDussen, videographer & freelance journalist

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Rachel Ishikawa joined Michigan Public in 2020 as a podcast producer. She produced Kids These Days, a limited-run series that launched in the summer of 2020.