© 2025 MICHIGAN PUBLIC
91.7 Ann Arbor/Detroit 104.1 Grand Rapids 91.3 Port Huron 89.7 Lansing 91.1 Flint
Play Live Radio
Next Up:
0:00
0:00
0:00 0:00
Available On Air Stations

Stateside: Thursday, Dec. 4, 2025

Ways To Subscribe
A promotional graphic for the radio program Stateside. Large text on the left reads ‘STATESIDE with April Baer,’ followed by the show times: ‘Weekdays at 3 p.m. and 8 p.m.’ and ‘On-demand on your favorite podcast platform.’ On the right is a black-and-white photo of a woman with long wavy hair, wearing a light blazer, smiling slightly.

First, we dug into updates on the largest data center proposed so far in Michigan. Then, we zoomed out to look at the big picture of how the influx of facilities could impact Michigan’s environment and economy.

Then, we chatted with songwriter Jason Singer (also known as Michigander), whose newly released holiday single reminds us all: It’s OK to not be OK in December.

And, we re-aired an interview with Michigan author Matthew Gavin Frank. He’s been investigating the world of amateur submarine enthusiasts – and the dangers that come with it – in his new book Submersed.

Get Stateside on your phone: subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, or Spotify today.

GUESTS ON TODAY’S SHOW:

  • Elinor Epperson, reporter and production assistant at Michigan Public
  • Nina Ignaczak, editor and founder at Planet Detroit
  • Jason Singer, songwriter also known as Michigander
  • Matthew Gavin Frank, author
Stateside is produced daily by a dedicated group of producers and production assistants. Listen daily, on-air, at 3 and 8 p.m., or subscribe to the daily podcast wherever you like to listen.